Curse

Gares Redstorm · Feb 23, 2006, 03:23 AM // 03:23

CPU: P4 1.7Ghz
Motherboard: Abit BD7-RAID
Memory: 512 MB

I've had the game for almost a year now. Had the computer its been running on for even longer. Build the computer myself with no major headaches till this. Tonight I was playing and a beeping sound came from my computer. I finally figured out it was the Temp Warning Sound. Its set to 75C. I also figured out it only went off when GW was running. I DL'd Hmonitor to test my temps while my computer was running. I also opened up my Performance Tab on my Windows Task Manager to check CPU usuage.

When I turned GW on, my CPU usage went to 100% and stayed there. My CPU temp started to rise and rise till it hit 75 and the warning sound went off. I checked my processes. GW.exe took up 98% of my CPU processes. I find that highly odd. It basically soaked up all my idle processes when it was running.

Granted, I don't have any info before this reoccurring incident. Tested it 4 times. And it only started tonight. Opened the case to see if my CPU fan was running, felt the air. I have not checked to see if its running properly. But would that even matter if GW is taking full usage of my CPU?

Help would be appreciated as I'm confuddled by this

-Gares

The Lich Ranger · Feb 23, 2006, 03:26 AM // 03:26

same for me, it happens only when i play GW.....its soo annoying....i have my own fan in it but its not helping much

Loviatar · Feb 23, 2006, 03:28 AM // 03:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gares Redstorm

But would that even matter if GW is taking full usage of my CPU?

Help would be appreciated as I'm confuddled by this

-Gares

normal.

check for dust bunnies in the heatsink.

put table fan blowing on the open case and see if that helps.

reseat the heatsink with fresh compound.

this is normally a cpu hog

Xeuro · Feb 23, 2006, 03:31 AM // 03:31

there is also a gel type thing that you can add to ur CPU that is supposed to reduce temperature, may want to look into that as well

aeroclown · Feb 23, 2006, 05:29 AM // 05:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gares Redstorm

CPU: P4 1.7Ghz
Motherboard: Abit BD7-RAID
Memory: 512 MB

I've had the game for almost a year now. Had the computer its been running on for even longer. Build the computer myself with no major headaches till this. Tonight I was playing and a beeping sound came from my computer. I finally figured out it was the Temp Warning Sound. Its set to 75C. I also figured out it only went off when GW was running. I DL'd Hmonitor to test my temps while my computer was running. I also opened up my Performance Tab on my Windows Task Manager to check CPU usuage.

When I turned GW on, my CPU usage went to 100% and stayed there. My CPU temp started to rise and rise till it hit 75 and the warning sound went off. I checked my processes. GW.exe took up 98% of my CPU processes. I find that highly odd. It basically soaked up all my idle processes when it was running.

Granted, I don't have any info before this reoccurring incident. Tested it 4 times. And it only started tonight. Opened the case to see if my CPU fan was running, felt the air. I have not checked to see if its running properly. But would that even matter if GW is taking full usage of my CPU?

Help would be appreciated as I'm confuddled by this

-Gares

100% cpu usage is not abnormal. Most Applications that are intensive consistently use 100% of your available resources, in most cases processors are designed to run at full load for long periods of time. Cpu usage in itself would not be the issue here imo, while it is a contributing factor, I would be more inclined to believe it may have to do with inadequate air flow.

Lord Cooper · Feb 23, 2006, 11:14 AM // 11:14

first things first - clean out any dust from the heatsink as dust is an excellent thermal insulator and will prevent the heatsink from shedding its heat. a can of compressed air is good for this. simply remove the heastsink/fan (hsf) from the processor and give it a good blow. clean all thermal grease/thermal pad etc from both the base of the hsf and the cpu. isopropyl alcohol is good for this and a soft lint free cloth. reapply thermal grease of your choice to the cpu using only a very small amount. remount hsf to processor. use compressed air to remove any dust from case fans and vents.

reassemble computer fire up and let guild wars run for a few hours. check temperature even if its not beeping at you. if it still seems high you probably need better case ventilation. the ideal setup is to have exhaust fans at the back and intake fans at the front. if possible you will want more exhaust than intake. this will ensure that all the air in the case is being moved and helps prevent "hotspots" of stagnant air.

Gares Redstorm · Feb 23, 2006, 10:32 PM // 22:32

Well, last night I decided to take a look at the heatsink and fan. Turns out the one of the pegs on the rentention mount was broke, thus making my heatsink and fan loose causing the heat.

Took it to work to try to find a part for it(work in Diagnostics Center

), but we didn't have it. Cleaned the dust, put some Silicon base on the processor, and tied the loose side down with a tie strap. Ordered a new retention mount, but as I type this with GW playing, my CPU is running at a steady 50oC. So far so good.

Gares

Blade Rez · Feb 23, 2006, 10:36 PM // 22:36

Look up a CPU/Cooler on www.newegg.com for your cpu if u still need a cooler.

Buy Arctic Silver 5 for better conduction of heat through your cpu to the heatsink.

Lord Cooper · Feb 24, 2006, 07:54 AM // 07:54

glad you got it sorted.

get yourself a new retention bracket pronto though. no need for a new hsf

EiS · Feb 24, 2006, 10:05 AM // 10:05

me personally pat of you problem is useing the stock Heatsink which are crap i think i'm useing a Thermalright XP-90 and man does it work good even once i diden't notice but my HS fan died and it was running for at least 4 hour's with no HS fan untill it finaaly got to hot and shutdown getting a Good HS and good fan to match up with it you will never have to worry about CPU heat problems again even if its almost full of dust still works like a charm

FFF_Asmodeus · Feb 24, 2006, 10:11 AM // 10:11

Quote:

Buy Arctic Silver 5 for better conduction of heat through your cpu to the heatsink.

I would suggest the ceramic compound from the same company, and website…

Lord Cooper · Feb 24, 2006, 10:28 AM // 10:28

any thermal compound will be sufficient. the xp90 is a good heatsink but he doesnt actually need one. all he needs is a new retention bracket.
quit spending money for him

SaucE · Feb 24, 2006, 01:45 PM // 13:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by Loviatar

put table fan blowing on the open case and see if that helps.

Sorry, but that is the stupidist idea EVER!!! A PC case is designed to give the best posiible air flow/cooling. Taking the side off the case interupts the air flow.

Across The Battle · Feb 24, 2006, 02:56 PM // 14:56

I am inclinded to agree with previous posters, First check for dust in the face and case. Clean that out properly, short bursts of air from a compressed air can. Then check the thermal paste(If you do not know what your doing in this matter, get it professionally done) Then if that still does not help, check the fan(s) for your CPU and Case, and have them replaced if neccessary.

The idea of putting a giant fan on the open case is a bad idea for numerous reasons, as stated, I personally wouldn't do it, but if you decided to and it helps, then its definitally the overheating of something, which is easier to conclude then putting a giant fan there.

Try this out, then come back to us :-p

Loviatar · Feb 24, 2006, 05:05 PM // 17:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by SaucE

Sorry, but that is the stupidist idea EVER!!! A PC case is designed to give the best posiible air flow/cooling. Taking the side off the case interupts the air flow.

WRONG

if you bother building your own for 10 years and checking troubleshooting sites you will find one of the first things to check for overheating issues after checking for dustbunnies and the fan spinning is to put some room temperature air on the possible trouble spot.

the air being blown in is not heated up by the hot air in the case .

the volume of cool air dwarfs what can be circulated by the case fans

the temp has dropped in all cases of testing a component under those conditions for testing(by professionals as well as me)

check before you look ignorant

EDIT

not to mention the usual rats nest of ribbon cables and poor air flow noted in many case reviews.

best possible air flow?

get real

SaucE · Feb 24, 2006, 05:10 PM // 17:10

Cable management?

Loviatar · Feb 24, 2006, 05:20 PM // 17:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by SaucE

Cable management?

origami is very helpfull as long as you dont bent them back and forth more than 1 cycle.

tip on that is to use an old junk cable to make your folds and hold it in place to see fit.

my case has as unobstructed airflow as possible and a good fanbuss to cut noise as needed. (over powered fans but what else are fanbusses for)